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  1. That was… intense. Allegedly, Salen Morrison was an idea by Freddi Highmore himself. So, kudos to him for sensing that the show needed more than some new romances and the slow crawl towards a wedding for season 5. Instead of heading towards Grey’s Anatomy, The Good Doctor turned to Die Hard. And I find myself rooting for the villain to survive fall!

    Which is not such a far-fetched claim as it may sound, because according to a BTS picture, episode 5×09 is titled “Yippee Ki-Yay”. So, Salen Morrison’s takeover of St. Bonaventure Hospital is to be taken as a variation of Hans Gruber’s raid on Nakatomi Plaza. Big honors for Rachel Bay Jone’s performance to be pictured as walking in the shoes of Alan Rickman’s great movie villain.

    So, Chief Lim will be John McClane, fighting alone against the system? Not quite. Since Salen’s management is all data-driven, it makes sense for Lim to turn to the head of IT for acquiring records that may prove her claim of Ethicure’s policies endangering patients to the state authorities.

    Which again underscores the beauty of Salen as disruptive element of the show: she makes Lim *and* Lea a purpose to (inter-) act beyond Shaun’s orbit. Bring on the battle!

    Though, I must submit that Salen might have prepared some good defenses since she is depicted as an ambiguous and reasonable adversary instead of pure evil. And remembering the past seasons, Lim & Co. might even be called out for being hypocrites about Salen’s reaction to the death of a baby.

    1×09 “Intangibles”: A misplaced tissue sample might result in a patient losing her speech for nothing. Hospital lawyer Jessica Preston and Andrews order Claire not to admit to the patient that the hospital has made a mistake to prevent a lawsuit.

    1×06 “Not Fake”: Claire screws up intubating which leaves her patient brain dead. Lim discovers Claire’s mistake but keeps quiet about it, only disclosing the information to Glassman in private. Glassman orders Claire to keep quiet about her mistake and especially not to talk to the patient’s family.

    1×18 “More”: Shaun makes a mistake during surgery that could result in a patient’s death. Melendez, Claire, Park and even a reluctant Morgan conspire to withhold the mistake from Andrews as long as possible in order to protect Shaun.

    3×14 “Influence”: Morgan makes a mistake during surgery, almost resulting in a patient’s death. Lim, Andrews and a reluctant Shaun conspire to withhold the information from the patient, a social media influencer, to preserve Morgan’s career and the hospital’s reputation.

    The staff of St. Bonaventure have some experience in cover-ups and little scruples to do so when it suits their needs. With Salen having done her homework on the key players’ past, she might launch some unexpected counter strikes, unearthing corpses hidden away in St. Bonaventure’s basement since Glasmann’s long reign.

    Now let’s see what alliances will be formed, who will be caught in the crossfire and what damage civil war will do to St. Bonaventure. Lest not forget, the hospital was bleeding more money than actual blood before Ethicure. At the end, Lim might not be John McClane but King Pyrrhus.

    1. First, an unnecessary side note: Rachel Bay Jones is also guest-starring on a comedy called “The United States of Al” as a love interest of the father of the main character. She is doing well in this comedic role, as well as Salen!

      I am definitely looking forward to Salen and Dr. Lim going against each other! And if Lea joins Dr. Lim, I like that pairing very much!

      A question for you, Andreas. I am trying to remember what happened in 1×18 “More”. Was the mistake Shaun made the one he told Dr. Andrews about that led to Dr. Andrews becoming the President of the hospital? I don’t care about the medical case itself, just the consequences of the mistake and whether it is the one I am thinking of. If not, was there 2 mistakes Shaun made in surgery?

      I want to see who sides with who, also.

      And last question – who is King Pyrrhus?

      1. Greek king Pyrrhus of Epirus did win the Battle of Asculum in 279 BC against the Romans. Yet, much of his forces were destroyed, forcing him to end the campaign.

        Thus, the phrase “Pyrrhic victory” describes a victory taking such a heavy toll that it inflicts long-term damage to the victor.

        And yes, it was in fact this one mistake of Shaun that made Andrews president, since Shaun insisted to report himself. But as so often, there weren’t any direct consequences for Shaun. Instead, Andrews used the incident against Glassman. This is quite interesting in the given context with Lea’s omission of reviews.

        Shaun likes to stick to the rules by the dot but rarely considers the broader picture, which often enough causes others in his proximity to suffer.

        What we see right now is very much a re-run of what happened between Shaun and Glassman in season 1, starting with Glassman forcing a therapist on Shaun and him hitting his mentor and running away.

        The show still likes to work with these parallels and I very much suspect that another road trip for Shaun is near – but this time he will probably be alone (going along with the Die Hard theme).

        Being sheltered in a bubble for years, it now becomes clear that Shaun still isn’t ready for the harsh realities of being a doctor (or a reliable husband holding to his wife in bad times). He has to face his inner demons, and in a classic hero’s journey, he will have to do it all on his own before he can return to his friends as a better version of himself.

        1. So with that said, you think he may go see his mother again or even encounter someone who was one of his foster parents? Like Emily, I feel like there is so much that could be fleshed out when it comes to Shaun’s teen years that could help further us understanding his foundation.

          For a part of me feels that, with losing his teen years, we don’t get to see what people formed who Shaun is. We know his brother had a role, and the trauma from his parents, even Dr. Glassman a bit, but it does seem like there are many they could add between his brother dying and Shaun’s college years.

          Also, excellent use of Pyrrhic victory but I feel like it may end up the opposite way. I think Salen may win but in the process, we lose Dr. Lim. Especially since this is all Dr. Lim has going for her right now and it doesn’t seem like they have long-term plans for the character.

          1. First Claire and now Dr. Lim?!? I certainly hope not!! When they actually give her a storyline, I really like her! But then that goes right to your point, Amari, that the writers don’t often give her storylines. And with the exit of her boyfriend the doctor, again you’re right in that there does not seem to be anything in the future for her either.

            Thank you, Andreas, for explaining “Pyrrhic victory”. A road trip to one of Shaun’s foster homes would be so interesting!

          2. The return of Marcie Murphy is certainly in the books for this season; there has been enough foreshadowing for this. Lea even said that they “still have lot to work through” in episode 5×03. Yet, I’m not sure if this isn’t something that should be spared for later in the season, after the initial turmoil at St. Bonaventure has ceased.

            Whatever may come with 5×08/09, it should continue with what Salen started in 5×05: “Think of these not as a report card, but a window into the minds of your clients […], and also as a window into yourselves.” Lately, Shaun has been depicted as being in denial about his identity as an individual with ASD.

            Refusing to be defined by his ASD might look like empowerment at the first glance, but in fact it holds him back. Because he can grow to his full potential only when he truly identifies and accepts his weaknesses beforehand. Speaking in medical terms Shaun is so familiar with: for administering the appropriate therapy, he first must get the diagnosis straight.

            Thus, I believe any upcoming road trip should be about not only keeping open the window into Shaun’s self but jumping through it for bold (perhaps even painful) exploration.

            This might include his mother since Shaun’s ASD was an important factor in his relationship to his parents – but it wasn’t the only one. Thus, it might be better to keep the issues of Shaun’s identity and family relations separate.

            As for Lim and Salen, I think there are some good arguments for both to survive the war. For once, the show’s structure needs an attending as well as a chief of surgery. With Lim leaving and Andrews filling the gap, a new face would have to be introduced as attending.

            Ethicure also multiplied the stories to tell for the show, as you already noted before, Amari. The legal and financial matters of running a hospital had been absent mostly since season 2. Season 4 concentrated on the cast’s relationships. With Salen and Ethicure, career paths, office politics, and the American health care system at general are back and a vital part of the stories. I doubt the writers would cut themselves all these options after half a season.

            So, in-universe, while Salen sure would be glad to get rid of an obstructive hospital president and an insubordinate chief surgeon, firing any of them might send the wrong signals to the staff, the press, and authorities. After dealing various punches, Salen probably will have the upper hand again, backed up by a large force of lawyers and sufficient funds. Though, her victory will come with the prize of many disgruntled employees ready to quit if Salen doesn’t take the staff’s concerns into consideration more often.

            Salen likes to talk of the Ethicure family. Obviously, she sees herself as the mother of quite immature children she must parent (with Lim in the role of the revolting adolescent…). In line with the overarching theme of parents accepting that their children become adults someday (Glassman!), Salen’s character arc might be just that – letting go of the total control she likes to exercise over the hospital, allowing the members of her Ethicure family adequate self-advocacy.

  2. Last post. The ending was so heartbreaking! I felt so bad for Shaun! Lea betrayed Shaun and then wouldn’t make it right by confessing what she had done to Salen. Dr. Glassman was too busy playing softball in Montana to keep in touch with Shaun. Claire is in Guatamala. Then Shaun loses a baby patient so soon after losing his own baby, and he feels there is no one left to comfort him! No wonder he broke down in the pharmacy!!

    1. I DIDN’T EVEN THINK ABOUT SHAUN LOSING HIS KID! Oh, damn! No wonder he broke down. After all that, he probably feels incredibly helpless and like, no matter what he tries or how hard he works, he can’t escape failure. Which, in my mind, I think Shaun sees success and his work as his only escape from the stigma ASD gives, so having negative reviews and losing a patient, it feels like a setback from what he has been running from since he was a kid and getting bullied.

      1. Don’t worry about forgetting about Lea’s miscarriage. When Andreas brings up past things, sometimes there will be one I don’t remember even after he’s described it. But yes, I agree you described how Shaun was feeling failure very well. And his support system, Lea and Dr. Glassman, abandoned him. So he couldn’t take it anymore! 🙁

  3. Comment #3: What Could Happen Next:
    1. Dr. Lim going to battle against Salen – I really hope that happens! Two alpha women going head-to-head, watching people take sides, seeing if Dr. Glassman sticks around and helps Dr. Lim, would Shaun help or hurt Dr. Lim’s case; the possibilities for drama are endless!!

    2. Everything you wrote about the Alex/Morgan, Salen/Dr. Andrews double date – I completely agree! It would make up for all of the Ewww stuff (like Salen sniffing Dr. Andrews. Sorry Andreas, but no.)

  4. I know I just posted, but last night I was typing away when all of a sudden my comment just disappeared before I could post it. So I am paranoid it will happen again, so I am going to post each paragraph as I type it. Weird, but I hope it’s o.k.

    Questions Left Unanswered 2. I’m confused about the timeline, too. Didn’t Shaun and Dr. Glassman meet when Shaun and Steve took their dead bunny to Dr. G.? And when Dr. G. was talking to Maddie’s ghost, didn’t she say she knew Shaun? I would like to see a flashback or three to clear this all up.

    Lol “Dr. Glassman Making it Clear He is Running Out of F***’s to Give”!!

  5. Hi Amari! Happy Thanksgiving!! Where do I begin? How about with Questions Left Unanswered. Andreas’ memory is much better, but here goes:
    1. When Shaun angrily went into the pharmacy, the guy told Shaun he was behind in his inventory. I took that to mean he may have entered the expiration date when the shipment first came in, but he has not gotten around to looking at that medicine since then. Even though you would think there would be a big red alert on the pharmacy computer when a medicine has expired, maybe Salen’s cost cutting deleted that feature. And an episode or 2 ago, Salen told someone (Dr. Andrews?) there were some sort of problems in the pharmacy. So that was enough for me to believe the hospital could plausibly have expired medicine on hand.

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