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  1. 5. In the novel, Janine’s baby dies and she’s never there to see it happen… so that was another “WTF?” moment for me in this episode… along with Serena’s loosening the reigns and ex-Scrabbler Fred suddenly deciding he’s going to go back to cracking the whip like a good fundie again.

    The whole Janine situation was to have a feel good moment, considering most of the time women on this show just suffer. As for the Aunt Lydia letting her see her thing, it is to show how much of a soft spot she has for Janine probably.

    Serena loosening the reigns is all about recognizing June, in another life, she may not have agreed with a lot, but they could have been friends. Yet, between June’s actions and Fred’s, there is this constant back and forth between accepting the world as it is and Serena Joy trying to carve out a piece of it where things are how she wanted them to be designed.

    And in terms of Fred, there is the same back and forth with him. On one hand, he may not fully agree with all the policies of Gilead but he’d rather the privileges of a man with power than be lower status or killed. So he may rock the boat for himself but when it comes to others, he is selective.

  2. 3. I find Eden the most compelling character on the show at the moment but I’m frustrated that so far she’s been assigned a background role as a plot device that impedes Nick and June’s relationship… what I would’ve preferred to see is that this screentime devoted to Nick had been given to one of the other Commanders and Eden had been his wife instead. Do you think that would’ve been better?

    I agree completely. For one of the things which sort of bugs me about this show is that, honestly I feel like it doesn’t know what to do with the majority of its characters sometimes. Especially if their story doesn’t have a direct effect on June or could be tied in somehow. Hence why Moira and Luke probably have been so rarely seen and they had to bring Emily and Janine from the colonies.

    The writers probably find managing everything much easier when they consolidate everyone versus letting each character have their own storyline and life. But, to your point, as much as the show expands on things the book doesn’t, it also leaves out details that for those, like me, who didn’t read the book, make it so while there are rules and laws, in terms of culture we don’t get much of that.

    Because, one of the things I’d really love to see is Eden have a conversation with June about her life. For with Eden finding those letters, being lonely, and June fairly ok, it’s like they are building up the possibility of her connecting with her. Plus, I’m sure Eden has to be curious about the life of a handmaid and how it compares to what she was taught. Yes, she is devout but clearly she wants to learn more. It’s just no one seems that willing to open up.

    4. How long the “Handmaid” program has been operational I can’t figure based on what’s been revealed thus far.

    Based on Season 1, Episode 7, we are led to believe it has been more than 3 years. As for what year it is? All we know is, based off news clippings, we’re past 2021 per s2e3. So, at the earliest, we’re somewhere around 2024 and Gilead has existed for 3+ years. As for the Handmaid’s program? Based off Janine carrying a full baby it has been more than a year so it might be safe to say 2 – 3 years maybe?

  3. Just putting this in order since it helps me with the response.

    1. What do you think Fred was trying to achieve by setting up the marriage of Nick to Eden and having them both live in his garage?
    1a. Why did he think this would work?

    I think the tactic Fred thought of is that, with providing Nick a wife, it would coerce him to not only take his focus off June but also Fred’s business. For, as seen, Eden is young, impressionable, and was ready and willing to report Nick as a gender traitor just because they weren’t having sex. So with Nick distracted, I believe the goal was to eventually get back into something with June. However, with the events of this episode, who knows if Fred might still be willing to have a relationship outside of their official titles.

    Which also maybe a factor, him maybe knowing Nick is the father and wanting to, like how Handmaids are separated from their kids, making sure Nick focuses on the one he’d have with Eden. Not the one assigned to him and Serena Joy.

    2. […] it really believable that he’d have this kind of pull when he’s under investigation for corruption?

    I think it also has to be taken into consideration that Nick is a good soldier. So while Fred’s word may not be valued highly, promoting a soldier and setting him up to evolve into a commander might be the idea here.

    2a. Nick has plenty of evidence of Fred’s sinful ways by now, so why hasn’t the man been booked already for his adultery, porn stash, contraband substances and obscene level of enthusiasm for Scrabble?

    June. Before the commander died in the terrorist attack, it seems Nick was ready to report and take down Fred but he also wanted June to be looked out for. Yet, with this new chaos happening, I think he is back to this weird place of whether he should stay or go because he wants to protect June and their kid, but at the same time Eden could pose a serious problem.

  4. I have some questions for you, Amari, I hope you don’t mind answering them… a lot of what’s happened in the last few episodes strikes me as oddly out of character and confusing.

    What do you think Fred was trying to achieve by setting up the marriage of Nick to Eden and having them both live in his garage?
    Why did he think this would work?

    In the book, people like Nick aren’t eligible for wives like Eden. Females such as her (who were children when the regime rose to power, have just reached the age where they can reproduce and are possibly still fertile) are reserved for high ranking military officers and government officials. They aren’t assigned to lowly servants – and this is implied in the tone of the group wedding ceremony in the series too… so Fred must’ve pulled some strings… but why? And is it really believable that he’d have this kind of pull when he’s under investigation for corruption? Which begs another question… Nick has plenty of evidence of Fred’s sinful ways by now, so why hasn’t the man been booked already for his adultery, porn stash, contraband substances and obscene level of enthusiasm for Scrabble?
    (In the novel, it’s mentioned offhandedly that Fred was killed by the other Commanders because they thought he was too liberal – maybe the show is building up to that)

    I find Eden the most compelling character on the show at the moment but I’m frustrated that so far she’s been assigned a background role as a plot device that impedes Nick and June’s relationship… what I would’ve preferred to see is that this screentime devoted to Nick had been given to one of the other Commanders and Eden had been his wife instead. Do you think that would’ve been better? That way we would’ve been afforded both more insight into how the government operates, as well as getting more insight into the psychology of someone like Eden (a “true believer” who is too young to remember much of the time before and has been conditioned from an early age to be this society’s idea of a model citizen)

    Also, I’ve read the book and even I’m having trouble following the timeline of this series, trying to figure out exactly how long this government has been in power and exactly how long the “Handmaid” program has been operational I can’t figure based on what’s been revealed thus far.

    In the novel, Janine’s baby dies and she’s never there to see it happen… so that was another “WTF?” moment for me in this episode… along with Serena’s loosening the reigns and ex-Scrabbler Fred suddenly deciding he’s going to go back to cracking the whip like a good fundie again. All of this struck me as a stretch too far, even given the generally softer depiction of these characters in the series as opposed to the novel and movie.

    The Aunt Lydia of the novel would never have allowed Janine access to her child or put up with the unorthodox nonsense she does in this episode.

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