Greenleaf: Season 4, Episode 2 “Did I Lose You?” – Recap, Review (with Spoilers)

Karine talking to herself after handing a document to James.
Karine: This sure don't feel like church.
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Grace and Noah’s son is introduced, as Jacob finds himself back in Cavalry drama and trying to work with an antsy Kerissa.


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OWN
Director(s) Rachel Raimist
Writer(s) Kriss Turner Towner
Air Date 9/10/2019
Introduced This Episode
AJ Delajae Jacob Gibson
Dante Shane Paul McGhie
Cameron Aaron Lamont

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Recap/ Review (with Commentary)

Heed Not Into Temptation | Jacob, Kerissa, Phil, Charity, Grace, James, Dante, Cameron

Charity begins her work for Phil, but not without some hesitation. For while her hatred of Grace remains strong, going against her father is a bit more of a challenge. Hence Phil reminding Charity that James is not a saint. Between negligent manslaughter to being investigated over how he spent the church’s money, there is sin there. However, he sees a good in her, beyond his needs, he wants to lift up.

However, said good doesn’t trump his desires for a balanced book or profit. Such is the case when he turns down Jacob, who speaks on Grace’s behalf, about the Blue Lake camp which seems inclusive to Black children. For with H&H about unity and communication between different ethnic groups, he can’t sign off on Blue Lake’s mission or price. So, Grace goes around him, and this continues those two butting heads.

Leaving Kerissa. She wants out of the Greenleaf home and selling the land Jacob has across the church is her plan to afford somewhere new. The problem is, Jacob, after spending time with Dante, and a little with his friend Cameron, thinks he can use that land for something beyond selfishness or to solve his wife’s discomfort. That idea, of course, bothers Kerissa since she may be a Greenleaf but she honestly can’t stand most of them – her husband included sometimes. So while Jacob asks of her to wait, she checks into how much the land is worth anyway.

Commentary

Phil comparing Charity to her family, especially James.
Phil: I see it all and it’s good.

You gotta hate/love how Charity knows she is likely being played but is so desperate for validation, and feeling empowered, that she will look a snake in the eye, hear it hiss, but not back away. Yet, even if you bring in James and what he says to her about patience, so comes the question of how long is she supposed to wait? If not, considering all she has gone through, what is Charity’s faith like at this point?

In my mind, she’d abandon the church like Sophia if she could, but all she knows is singing, and her career didn’t necessarily take off as she wanted. So, she is stuck at Cavalry, and like most people who had a job somewhere a long time, she wants to move up or around since she is bored. But, unfortunately, the people in charge have changed, and the person who can sign off doesn’t want her to assume the role she wants.

Which, when you think about it, is similar to Mae’s storyline. She wants to take over the church, but no one of power really has faith in her. So, she is in waiting. However, unlike Mae, Charity doesn’t have the support of any family member, even when they hit a wall, to push her forward or make it clear they are making strides.

Look at Grace. The way she talked about just Charity rejoining the music department didn’t show much gumption. She was ready for a no and damn near sound like she was pushing for one.

Moving on from Charity, can we please meet Kerissa’s people? Like Charity’s ex, the main issue with those who marry into the Greenleaf family is that it seems once they are in, they have to forsake all outsiders. Thus leaving us without any sense of who they are beyond what drama they cause for the family. Since, at this point, beyond giving Mae grandkids, sometimes it is hard to say how Kerissa is an asset. Beyond the audience’s entertainment.

Leaving Dante. A part of me wonders what happened to his father, and forgive me if his mother noted it in the last episode. It’s just, his introduction wasn’t built up too much, like Grace’s son, so there wasn’t a strong desire to latch onto every word said about him. However, with putting a face and personality to a name, so comes the investment. One which could, whether Zora gets with him or not, last a while.

The Child I Left Behind | Noah, Grace, AJ, Sophia, Zora

Noah appears, and unfortunately, it is at the church, which means he is seen, and he is there to talk about AJ to Grace. Which, as you can imagine, isn’t the friendliest of conversations due to him being upset he thought she got an abortion and didn’t. Not to say he pushed for it, but with being told one thing and finding out, nearly 18+ years later, another, it doesn’t sit well with him. Especially since he is struggling to have a child with his wife.

Yet, there is nothing he can do. Also, it appears he isn’t necessarily trying to step up now. If only due to Isabel, his wife, already not trusting Grace, and being under stress due to possible infertility. Thus leaving Grace to deal with it all and since she has no friends, she turns to Sophia. Someone who, originally, wanted to stay the summer and spend time with her mom and Zora. However, once it was revealed Grace abandoned her brother, she decides to call her dad and leave for a summer at Hampton.

Commentary

Sophia reacting to Grace revealing she has a brother.
Sophia: You’re his mom.

While I know part of the reason is the budget, anyone else find it strange none of the adults on this show have friends really? I’m not talking about Kerissa and her real estate associate, I’m talking about someone they can get called out by and still have lunch with the next day, or week if they are sensitive. Because, while I understand why Grace told Sophia she has a brother, in terms of knowing she had family, it felt beyond that. Like she was expecting Sophia to console her, be there for her, tell her she wasn’t wrong for what she did, and things of that nature.

You know, expecting Sophia to be down for anything and everything Grace does and not judge her. Which perhaps explains a lot about Grace and her relationships. While she has long abandoned any pursuit of being the star child, notice how she acts, most of the time, when asking for something. Outside of when dealing with Bob, you see this hint of fear that she will be rejected in most of her conversations.

Which will surely make this relationship with AJ interesting since she has a real reason to feel guilt. Here is Sophia, who benefitted from Grace’s wealth and privilege, and then there is this son who didn’t have any of that and look what happened. Hence her trying to throw money at the problem and Grace being called out for that since, maybe in Sophia’s eyes, that is what Grace, possibly other members of the family, do too far often?

That is, either throw money, or distractions, out there to appease, shut up, or avoid the root of any problem.

Question(s) Left Unanswered
  1. What’s AJ’s story, and how did things go when he first discovered Grace was his mom?

A Steady March To Holiness Or Hell | Mae, James, Karine, Charity

Mae discouraging James from underhanded tactics.
Mae: “By My Will,” says the lord.

Like Charity, James isn’t that patient and is willing to fight dirty to reach his goals. Hence why he pulls Karine to dig stuff up on Connie and while Connie isn’t clean, Mae doesn’t want to use that ammunition. Why? Well, she is tired of the old ways of doing things and, look where it left them? She’d instead follow God’s path than steadily march to hell adorned in gold. A warning she presents to both James and Karine but, when it comes to Charity, with digging for information out of Karine, a known gossip, it seems she may need to hit rock bottom again.

Commentary

If Mae isn’t going to fight dirty, it should be interesting to see what she does instead. It’s unlikely she is just going to have bible study with Zora and wait. So what will her next move be, and will James and Karine play a role? Also, with Charity learning about Noah inside the church, meeting with Grace even, what will she do with that information first? Use this false sense of sisterhood she made with Grace, at the beginning of the episode, to develop her information, or will she tattle like a spoiled brat anytime she catches wind of something?

Collected Quote(s) & .Gifs

Without a vision, people will perish.
— James
Watch what a man does not what he says, and you’ll see who he is.
— Phil

In God’s time, there are no transitions. It’s just the steady march to holiness or hell, and every day is a step up or a step-down.
— Mae

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Season/ EpisodeSynopsisEpisode InformationStorylines & Characters
Season 4, Episode 3 “Visions and Dreams”Grace spends some time in Phoenix which allows Phil to make a move and Mae to learn why Calgary will never be hers. Also, Zora may have made a friend.
Director(s) Charles Randolph-Wright
Writer(s) David Ehrman, Ivy Mariel Pruss
Air Date 9/18/2019
Introduced This Episode
Nikki Kadianne Whyte
  • Kerissa Wants To Move Out – NOW! | James, Kerissa, Jacob
  • Grace Trying To Make Up For Lost Time & Zora Making A New Friend | AJ, Dante, Jacob, Nikki, Grace
  • Mae Learns Why She’ll Likely Never Become Head Pastor At Calgary | Misty, Grace, Mae, James, Charity, Phil
Season 4, Episode 2 “Did I Lose You?”Grace and Noah’s son is introduced, as Jacob finds himself back in Cavalry drama and trying to work with an antsy Kerissa.
Director(s) Rachel Raimist
Writer(s) Kriss Turner Towner
Air Date 9/10/2019
Introduced This Episode
AJ Delajae Jacob Gibson
Dante Shane Paul McGhie
Cameron Aaron Lamont
  • Heed Not Into Temptation | Jacob, Kerissa, Phil, Charity, Grace, James, Dante, Cameron
  • The Child I Left Behind | Noah, Grace, AJ, Sophia, Zora
  • A Steady March To Holiness Or Hell | Mae, James, Karine, Charity
Season 3/ Episode 13 “The New Life” [Season Finale]The season comes to an end by having a soft reboot. One which allows a new threat to get every Greenleaf’s undivided attention.
Director(s) Clement Virgo
Writer(s) Craig Wright
Air Date 11/21/2018
Introduced This Episode
Phil Demars Sean Blakemore
Bob Whitmore Beau Bridges
  • Out With The Old: Basie, Tasha, Rochelle, James
  • A New Adversary, And A Old One: Connie, Phil Demars, Bob Whitmore, Grace, James, Mae
  • Gather Together In My Name As We Face The Storm Together: Kerissa, Zora, Sophia, James, Mae, Grace, Lionel, Kevin, Charity, Jacob, Aaron, Kevin
Season 3/ Episode 12 “Day of Reckoning”It is said God always has a plan. One could argue all we’ve seen, especially in terms of Basie and Rochelle, was part of the lord’s plan to correct the path of each Greenleaf family member. Blood or otherwise.
Director(s) Charles Randolph-Wright
Writer(s) Kriss Turner Towner
Air Date 11/14/2018
  • Out With The Old: Tasha, Basie, Rochelle, Grace, Jacob, Coralie
  • Enough Is Enough: Isiah, Zora, Kerissa, Jacob
  • A Day of Reckoning: Aaron, Grace, Mae, Basie, James
Season 4, Episode 1 "Original Sin"The season has barely begun, and the Greenleaf family ends up with their own personal Judas and the first sets of battles with Bob and his ambitious house negro.
Director(s) Clement Virgo
Writer(s) Craig Wright
Air Date 9/3/2019
Introduced This Episode
Doris Diane Sellers
Perry Mark Taylor
  • Life Outside The Church: Zora, Sophia, Kerissa, Mae, James, Doris, Perry, Jacob
  • Testing The Waters: Grace, Phil, Bob, Charity, Jacob, Mae, James, Connie, Kerissa
  • From The Ashes, Many Things Can Rise: Phil, Charity, Grace, Noah, Bob

Season 3/ Episode 11 “The End Is Near”

The s*** officially hits the fan and it is so much it may clog up the gears and stop everything people have long been working towards.

Director(s) Rose Troche
Writer(s) David Ehrman, Casey Vandeventer
Air Date 11/7/2018

Featuring: Rochelle, James, Charity, Mae, Grace, Connie, Tasha, Basie, Jacob, Kerissa, Maxine, Lionel, and Aaron

Season 3/ Episode 10 “The Promised Land”

So many surprises jump out at us you’d think this episode of Greenleaf was a haunted house attraction.

Director(s) Allan Kroeker
Writer(s) Karen Corneille
Air Date 10/31/2018
Introduced This Episode
Michael Stephen Bishop

Featuring: Rochelle, Coralie, Grace, Isiah, Zora, Kerissa, Jacob, Tasha, Michael, Charity, Lionel, Mae, Basie, Maxine, and James

Season 3/ Episode 9 “Runaway Train”

With Greenleaf being an ensemble show, rarely does any character get an episode which hones in on just them. Making Keith David (James) taking on this one solo such a treat.

Season 3/ Episode 8 “Dea Abscondita”

Zora deciding to leave leads to all hell breaking loose but with her dramatic exit, that might be the catalyst to the healing many need.

Season 3/ Episode 7 “That Was Then”

It seems like history is repeating itself on Greenleaf for some characters as others press on forward despite many an obstacle in their way.

Season 3/ Episode 5 “Closing Doors”

Charity hits rock bottom, something huge happens with Sophia, and Tasha and Rochelle take additional steps in their plan.

Season 3/ Episode 6 “She Changes Everything”

As Sophia loses her faith, and Charity finds Iyanla Vanzant visiting her, James and Mae’s plans may have resulted in mutually assured destruction.

Season 3/ Episode 4 “The Underdog”

There are many last-ditch efforts to salvage, sometimes, selfish plans, and when they don’t come through? Well, people get nasty. 

Season 3/ Episode 3 “Chain of Command

It’s an episode of facing the inevitable on Greenleaf. Especially if your name is Mae or Charity who both get serious wake-up calls.

Season 2/ Episode 13 “Silence and Loneliness”

Guilt and insecurities are the focus of this episode. Especially as people expose their soft under belly to those who can, or have, hurt them the most.

Season 2/ Episode 14 “The Father’s Will”

What Basie Skanks started, bringing up homosexuals during that church meeting, comes to a head as Lionel and Aaron come to Cavalry and dig up old and new skeletons.

Season 2/ Episode 15 “Two by Two”

Faith, money, morals, and understanding. Four words which are the themes as temptation lurks about and few can say they are truly holier than thou on Greenleaf.

Season 2/ Episode 16 “The Pearl”

From the beginning, I’d like to believe Greenleaf has always been about how those in the pulpit aren’t necessarily holier than thou and in the season 2 finale, with a few exceptions, everyone gets a glimpse of their own personal hell.

Season 1/ Episode 1 "A Time to Heal"

Despite all the programs currently on OWN, for the most part, if it didn’t have Oprah’s name on it, if she wasn’t interviewing someone, I honestly felt it wasn’t worth watching. Yes, there are a million and one Tyler Perry shows on the network, but there is something about his brand that I just don’t feel compliments, Oprah. However, Greenleaf, as messy as it is, as religious as it is, and as much as this seems to be something Shonda Rhimes would advise the writing of, it seems to fit what you’d expect from OWN. Which may not make much sense in hindsight, but considering Oprah’s acting choices and what her brand is, it comes to make sense with time.

Season 1/ Episode 13 "What Are You Doing Here?"

“What Are You Doing Here” is not solely the episode’s title, but a phrase repeated throughout. One which will join the thought of “What are they referencing?”

Season 2/ Episode 1 “A House Divided”

Let me be straight up – Thanks to Tyler Perry, when OWN started having scripted shows without his name on it, I did not for a second think they would be good. Granted, they were under the Oprah umbrella, and she was giving us the rare opportunity to see her act, but I was skeptical. However, Greenleaf opened the doors to the type of brilliance I still, to this day, wish BET would reach for. Now, I covered the first and last episode of season one and with me buying a season pass. 

Season 2/ Episode 2 “Strange Bedfellows”

As Jacob leaves the house and transitions to becoming a member of the Triumph community, he leaves a church and home still reeling from scandal and seemingly not bouncing back anytime soon. 

Season 2/ Episode 3 “A Mother’s Love”

Poor Lady Mae. All her children, in some form or another, make it seem that she only thinks of herself. Of her reputation. But really, with one son working for the competition, a daughter who nearly brought the whole family to their knees, and the youngest’s marriage seeming suspect, can you blame her for being worried? It isn’t like what they do doesn’t reflect on her.

Season 2/ Episode 4 “Revival”

While “Revival” reminds you of the importance and beauty of the church, at the same time it makes you want to shout Mac’s line “And you call yourself a Christian!”

Season 2/ Episode 5 “Point of No Return”

Jacob and Kerissa, after spending most of the season, and Kerissa’s case the show, in the background, have the type of performances that will leave you shook and will explain why this episode is called “Point of No Return.”

Season 2/ Episode 6 “The Royal Family”

How Triumph stays afloat gets revealed, Zora returns to the show in time for Sophia’s birthday, and Kevin and Charity’s divorce starts to get ugly.

Season 2/ Episode 7 “Born to Trouble”

It has been nearly a year since Faith’s death and everyone, including Mac, is still reeling from it. But with everyone sure on the idea it was his fault and feeling powerless to do more than leaving it up to god, he remains ostracized.

Season 2/ Episode 8 “And the Sparks Fly Upward”

Let me tell you – If you thought this season was a bit too ho-hum and lacked some quality drama? Oh, this episode will compensate for all of that.

Season 2/ Episode 9 “The Bear”

Greenleaf returns and there is the question of whether Grace is going to Jail and how will everyone will handle their own personal struggles.

Season 2/ Episode 10 “Call Not Complete”

Since season 1, everyone has had some issues with Grace leaving and how that held them back. But it seems the frustration Kerissa has long been willing to share is coming out of other people’s mouths now. Leading you to wonder, as cracks in the family start to show, can they survive each other?

Season 2/ Episode 11 “Changing Seasons”

A truly shocking moment happens: Lady Mae admits she is wrong, apologizes to Grace, and all in one episode. But while there is that major shock, so builds to a few other ones. Be it Grace taking an interest in Basie Skanks or Carlton coming back to the show – which are two situations which may come into contact.

Season 2/ Episode 12 “House Rules”

Patience and trust are major themes in “House Rules” as everyone is tasked with having faith in their significant other while in a precarious situation.

Season 3/ Episode 1 “Strange Currents”

Greenleaf returns and with Mae and James’ relationship on the rocks, the foundation of the family is splintered and puts all on unsteady ground.

Director(s) Clement Virgo
Writer(s) Craig Wright
Air Date 8/28/2018

Season 3/ Episode 2 “The Space Between”

Lady Mae is put on the defensive and while she is getting hit every which way, she refuses to go down without a fight.

Director(s) Charles Randolph-Wright
Writer(s) Kriss Turner Towner
Air Date 8/29/2018
Characters Introduced
Clara Donna Biscoe
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